Monday, February 11, 2008
Speaking of catastrophically stupid ...
Shorter isn't-the-Holocaust-hilarious KKKate: If the MSM had just kept their big, fat, lying mouths shut during Vietnam, the Americans would’ve totally won the war. Now they’re doing the same thing all over again and that’s why the Americans are losing in Iraq. Seriously.
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Even when someone points out that McNamera basically wrote the definitive book on Vietnam and the politics of the situation, they scoff at him and return to their "America can beat your dad with one arm tied behind his back" kind of rhetoric. They completely ignore the fact that Vietnam was also started on a lie (Gulf of Tonkin) and that even being there was against the law and the Constitution.
More chest pounding from the dumbest subsection of these here interwebs.
What a collection of rubes over there. And you have to give Raphael credit for persisting in trying to inject some balance while dealing with the pile-on from the monkeys who, to a man, served in 'Nam or had a brother in 'Nam or who is in fact the re-incarnation of LBJ.
If the lips of rightwingers are moving, they're lying.
I'm still having a hard time believing that Raph is actually the sanest one there... Seems a little counter-intuitive.
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Damn you MSM!
If you hadn't interfered casualty rates in Vietnam could have topped the orgasmic blood soaked meat grinders of WWI and WII and America would have remained blissfully ignorant of how many of their sons and daughters lives were being thrown away so some douchebag military contractor could make billions!
And you're doing the same thing now, damn you! Why can't you just shut up and let us conservatives send other people's children to their deaths! We've gotta keep our stock in Boeing and Raytheon high and that requires more dead bodies!
When Urban II preached the First Crusade at Clermont in 1096, what he succeeded in doing, whether he actually intended it or not, was to export the warrior class and its violence out of Europe into someone else's back yard. Then began once of the biggest economic booms in history. This led, in my opinion, to the basic understanding or agreement between Western societies and their respective warrior classes: We will support you in idle luxury as long as you agree to have your wars somewhere else.
The problem with Vietnam is that it was perceived by the American middle class as a violation of this basic agreement. While it is true that the actual shooting took place outside the United States, the American warrior class. via the draft, exported middle class Americans to that other place to pull the triggers. While liberating villages in Vietnam was certainly not as bad for business in the US as liberating American villages might have been, neither middle class American youths, nor their parents, wives nor girlfriends were happy with exposing middle class youths to the risk of retaliation on the part of the often incensed Vietnamese.
I agree the American people put up with that kind of thing during World War II, and even Korea, but by the time Vietnam came around, middle class Americans wanted a clue as to why it was so necessary to forfeit so many lives.
Think abut it this way. There was no hostile press reporting all those Russian casualties in Afghanistan, but the Soviet people still found out that lives were being wasted in service of Kremlin fantasies. Sometimes the value of a free press is exaggerated.
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