Saturday, March 12, 2005

"Scientific" creationism: Know thine enemy.


And while I'm still working on a couple longer pieces on the intellectual horror that is creation science/Intelligent Design, if you plan on getting involved in the occasional tussle, you really need to understand what you're up against. Think ... uh, think "Jinx McHue", but with less literacy.

No, I'm serious. Really.

You desperately need a taste of the intellectual level of the opposition, and the best place to find that is over here at http://talkorigins.org. Over the course of my own postings, I'll occasionally refer to specific pieces at that site (your humble correspondent having contributed the occasional article there). But, the scholarly stuff aside, you really need to get acquainted with the Feedback section, in which readers write, and TO denizens respond.

Sometimes, the questions/feedback are well-phrased and thought-provoking. Other times, well, not so much. For example, there's this:

I noticed you didnt mention Watchtower.org at all. it is a great anti-evolution website. Your bias is disgusting. You dont list credible,reasonable thoughts, and try to dismiss all believers in God as fanatics. It dont work.Doug.

... and this ...

Did you know that the earth DOES NOT MOVE?

If you look, you find evidence in the bible that Sun, Moon AND stars MOVE around the earth, and the earth is immovable!

You have been deceived!

Found this web site for much more proof: http://www.fixedearth.com

See also Psalms 93:1 and over 100 other verses in the bible (The ONLY scientific LAW BOOK on earth - Only people, ignorant people for that matter are 'RELIGIOUS')

... and this, from someone who apparently hasn't yet grasped the concept of the Shift Lock key ...

EVOLUTION IS A DESIGN OF MANY DIS-ILLUSIONED SCIENTISTS, AND, BIOLOGISTS, WHO DO NOT WANT TO ACCEPT THE WORD OF GOD. PILTDOWN MAN, A PATHETIC HOAX! DARWINISM, WASTE OF TIME. HOW, DOES ONE THINK THAT IF THE FIRST ACTIVE LIFE ON THE PLANET WAS A SINGLE-CELLED BACTERIA, THAT, THIS CELL COULD MAGICALLY(EVEN OVER MILLIONS OF YEARS)CHANGE INTO THE MULTITUDE OF SPECIES PRESENT ON THE EARTH TODAY? IT IS ALSO AMAZING, THAT THE SUN IS POSITIONED JUST RIGHT, THAT THE EARTH DOES NOT GET BLISSTERED WITH METEORS, AND, AN EVER DEPLETING OZONE LAYER FOR PROTECTION FROM GAMMA-RAYS. TO ALL EVOLUTIONISTS, WHEN YOU LAY ON YOUR DEATHBED WAITING FOR THE UNKNOWN, AND YOU LOOK BACK AT THE MEAGER 70, 80, OR 90 YEARS YOU'VE HAD ON THIS EARTH, IT WILL BE TOO LATE TO SEEK GOD. YOUR DESTINY HAD ALREADY BEEN SEALED, YOUR NAME LEFT OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, FOR WHAT? SEEK JESUS NOW, YOUR ETERNAL LIFE DEPENDS ON IT.

... and a little of this ...

Your site disgusted me ...

... and the occasional submission that no one's quite sure what to make of ...

omgOMG!!!!11!!! THE ARCHEPTOREX WAS JUS A BURD1111!!!! HE HAD TRU PERCHING FETE OMG111!!!11!ONE!! HE WAS A BURD THAT FLU SO HI N SO FREE!!!!1!! FLY FREE BIRD FLY!!!1!! THE EVOLUSHUN IS DIZPROFEN!!!!1!11

... and the occasional attempt at brevity ...

where is the proof for your facts. Where you alive billions of years ago. put up or shut up.


... and sometimes, brevity ... ehhh, not so much ...

This page is a sham for the scientific community! there is not a shred of evidence in this page. Only personal attacks on Hovind and Baugh. I guess that it doesn't matter what degree you have. as long as you are creationist then you guys think we are automaticaly stupid. Fact is that most of scientific branches were establised by creationists! take this page down. You're personal attacks on various creationits only shows that you don't have good arguments. Stop making a fool of yourselfs !!!

... and the occasional amateur historian (who doesn't seem to know which version of history he wants to defend) ...

The reason no dinosuars made it on to the ark is because they died out at the K/T boundary which was about 65 million years ago. Noahs ark occurred in the holocene which was only a fabout 7000 years ago. There were no dinosaurs to get onto the ark as they had already died out. How thick are you people.

... and the occasional amateur theologian ...

This website is full of false claims and is all wrong. There is proof that evolution did not take place,and this website seems to be blinded to those facts. When God created the Earth He created it with age, we know this because of Adam and Eve. They were not two when they were created, they were adults. Also most scientists are now admitting to the fact that evolution did not take place. I would recommend a wonderful book called Answers in Genesis. Please open yourself to The Truth of creation and the salvation through Jesus Christ. Thank you

... and the occasional amateur logician ...

hey dude. Did George washington exist? were you there to see him? Then all you are doing is relying on books and textbooks to tell you who he was and what he did. Did god exist? You never saw him either. the bible tells you exactly who he is and was nd will always be, but you don't believe in the bible. Why believe the textbooks?

... and the occasional ... well, beats the hell out of me ...

Gotcha! The Homo floresiensis discovery is final scientific proof that we God-fearing intelligently-designed scientific creationists are right, and you God-hating unintelligently-designed pseudo-scientific evolutionists are wrong. Reason: Their tiny “hobbit” size, especially their sin-shrunken brain, proves that they were part of the degenerated antediluvian race that were wiped out by God by the raging Flood waters 4,000 years ago and were buried by God’s raging waters so that they could be exhumed in the last days. So Homo floresiensis also scientifically proves that the last days are finally upon us! Their wicked sins — they were probably pre-Flood evolutionists — caused both their minds and their bodies to atrophy. For they cohabited with animals, probably some kind of monkey — bestiality! — and their offspring were diminished in body, mind and soul. So God destroyed them. And God’s going to destroy you! “For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an over; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble; and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts.” (Malachi 4:1, King James Version, the only true version.) Repent, evolutionists, before it is forever too late!

... and speaking of literacy ...

Kent Hovind is not an embarresment to the creation movement, usally when he cannot be refuted, then this is what the evil-lutionist resort to. He is very good friends with the father of the modern young earth creationist movement Henry Morris, so your facts are liar, which I am sure you are aware of.

... and what is with this obsession with capital letters?

YOU HAVE NOT answered ID. There will always need to be something to cause what is occurring to make lives possible. ANYONE who thinks the human body which is more complex than the modern computer is either ignorant and doesn't know it, or willingly ignorant of the Truth. YOU ALSO DID NOT answer Michael Behe's IC argument. Sure there may be 1 or 2 missing of flagellum in nature, but your still can't assume it started from scratch based on that either. Does it scare you to think of a God existing that made you? Hope you will see the evidence is crystal clear that we are not here by chance but that we are created.

... and then there's the folks who like to get right to the point ...

HAHAHAHAH, Your site is funny, bias and it's filled with jokes, it's like a stand up comic, they make you laugh but you can never take one serious. Thanks guys, I enjoy all the evidence you show for creation. P.S. Kill yourself you are worth nothing according to evolution.

... and, of course, if you have nothing meaningful to say, well, there's always just laughing your ass off, I guess:

i can't believe that people believe the earth is 4 billion years old . i find that to be hilarious!

Don't say you haven't been warned.

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